Dienstglas 6X30 Ddx Serial Numbers

Help needed identifying Zeiss 6x30. But there is also additional texts saying 'Dienstglas', meaning '. But I suppose it's a military serial number. Manufacturer/Model: Swarovski cag Dienstglas 6X30 Field of View: 8.5 deg = 150 m/1,000 m; APFOV 51 degrees Weight: 423 gr Exit Pupil: 5 mm Serial #/Year of Manufacture: 96673.

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06-21-2014, 10:44 PM #16


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thank,you Michael ,
of interest also was the left prism covers.None of them had the original Voigtlander commercial logo.
My observations of ddx binoculars indicate that the Voigtlander logo was replaced by ddx on the left prism plate about #55442.
My own observations of ddx and your observations (above) lead me towards a possible explanation as to the significance of the '0'on certain ddx binoculars
I wonder whether certain Voigtlander binoculars were returned to the factory at Braunschweig during WW2 and received a service including upgrade internal lubrication to the current standard and their original serial number was given a '0' prefix.The serviced binoculars received 2x replacement top prism covers.
This may explain why ddx '0' marked binoculars generally have the same physical features as their non '0' marked siblings.The added '0' is always of the same font and perfectly aligned to indicate that it was not added later.
However one point that is not very convincing about my theory is that it supposes that ddx binoculars needed to go back to Braunschweig for this service.It would be possible for ddx to service other Dienstglas binoculars makes but perhaps the ddx factory only marked up their own branded binoculars in the above manner for a realatively short period of time.( the sandfarben coloured ddx Dienstglas from about serial 270XXX did not include a '0' series)

06-22-2014, 03:35 AM #17


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Originally Posted by Stew
thank,you Michael ,
of interest also was the left prism covers.None of them had the original Voigtlander commercial logo.
My observations of ddx binoculars indicate that the Voigtlander logo was replaced by ddx on the left prism plate about #55442.
My own observations of ddx and your observations (above) lead me towards a possible explanation as to the significance of the '0'on certain ddx binoculars
I wonder whether certain Voigtlander binoculars were returned to the factory at Braunschweig during WW2 and received a service including upgrade internal lubrication to the current standard and their original serial number was given a '0' prefix.The serviced binoculars received 2x replacement top prism covers.
This may explain why ddx '0' marked binoculars generally have the same physical features as their non '0' marked siblings.The added '0' is always of the same font and perfectly aligned to indicate that it was not added later.
However one point that is not very convincing about my theory is that it supposes that ddx binoculars needed to go back to Braunschweig for this service.It would be possible for ddx to service other Dienstglas binoculars makes but perhaps the ddx factory only marked up their own branded binoculars in the above manner for a realatively short period of time.( the sandfarben coloured ddx Dienstglas from about serial 270XXX did not include a '0' series)
Perhaps the binos where returned to the factory and the plates were replacement. could be an explanation.
Originally Posted by Michael Downey
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Stew,
I have compiled a table of the ddx low O series serial numbers (all with photographs) which I have on file. In my opinion the grease type symbols are particularly revealing. The grease symbols are not in sequence and include three different symbols, which is rather odd given that the total ddx low O series serial range is only around 7,000 or so.
Interesting to note that the one H/6400 marked bino in this O series is the odd bino out.
Hope this table provides some useful information to aid your research.
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Great list.
Please, can you check the markings of the number 0341x? After my list this one should have the grease type symbol '+'.
I have add a part of my list with low '0' serial numbers.
Originally Posted by Stew
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the commercial name Voigtlander appeared on the left prism cover until after #55442 where upon 'ddx ' appeared on the left prism cover .
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Hi Stew,
thank you for your reply.
After my research the code ddx started with the number 50xxx (ddx. and H/6400)
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06-22-2014, 04:29 AM #18

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Originally Posted by wilddieb

Great list.
Please, can you check the markings of the number 0341x? After my list this one should have the grease type symbol '+'.
I have add a part of my list with low '0' serial numbers.

Thanks Carsten.
I attach a scan of 03417. It has the O grease symbol.
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06-22-2014, 05:18 AM #19


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Originally Posted by Michael Downey
Thanks Carsten.
I attach a scan of 03417. It has the O grease symbol.
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Hi Michael,
thanks. I have to correct my list now.
Here some more of mine.
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06-22-2014, 08:42 AM #20

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Originally Posted by Stew
the commercial name Voigtlander appeared on the left prism cover until after #55442 where upon 'ddx ' appeared on the left prism cover .
Hi Gentelmen,
I have a pair of binoculars marked ddx (in left plate) and number 52336 and H/6400.
Unfortunately I can not attached the foto, as there is no rights on this forum.

06-22-2014, 09:39 AM #21


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Originally Posted by Rusmann
Hi Gentelmen,
I have a pair of binoculars marked ddx (in left plate) and number 52336 and H/6400.
Unfortunately I can not attached the foto, as there is no rights on this forum.
Everything is o.k.
As i wrote the code ddx started with the number 50xxx.
ddx on the left plate with a point (ddx.) and H/6400 on the right plate.
H/6400 left off with the number 150xxx or 151xxx.

06-22-2014, 12:40 PM #22

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I can suggest an explanation. But I cannot say if it takes known serial numbers into account.
Suppose that ddx serials went to 100.000. Since the numbering alledgedly started at 50000, then 00001 would be a unique number.
If their numbering machine could not manage more than 5 digits, this might have been done. Of course, this would only be a temporary measure.
But it does look like how the year stamps on leather goods, like pistol holsters, late in the went from 44 to a single 4.
My guess has for many years been, that they did not have a 5 digit stamp available. So what could not be made, was omitted for the time being.
If this could be right, then ddx serial numbers up to 99999 should be known, and again, if I understand what was written earlier here, correctly, above about 107000.

06-22-2014, 01:26 PM #23


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I dont think that the numbering machine could only (at first) manage five or less digits.
the first binos without ddx code have the number 16xxx.
the first binos with code ddx starts with the number 50xxx with ddx on the left plate and H/6400 on the right plate.
the binos with the '0' first starts with 022x. They have ddx on the right plate and no H/6400. therefore they were produced after the first ddx coded binos.
The last binos with the '0' (my list) ended with 0251xxx.
i hope you understand what i mean.
i try to add a list of '0' binos from my list.
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06-22-2014, 11:19 PM #24

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I admit, the idea does not fit the serial numbers. It might, but it doesn´t.
Besides, the Sitzungsreferate from the Voigtlander Board of directors are in the archives in Braunschweig. A clue might be found there. Only I won´t come to Braunsweig any time soon. ( I am very interested in looking, so I may go there one day )
I think, it is an 0, (zero), not an O. But that is just how the layout looks to me.
Btw, did Voigtländer have a second factory? A Zweigwerk ?

06-27-2014, 05:44 PM #25

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ddx 0251182 on ebay uk now. The dienstglas 6x30 has been painted over. blueish triangle.

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